Finally found RR!

I found Ravena.  Dear Ravena.

ravena.decuir: hello forceme..
Forceme Silverspar: Hi there.
ravena.decuir: how are you?
Forceme Silverspar: Are you still isabella's owner?
ravena.decuir: yes.
Forceme Silverspar: I'm good thanks.
Forceme Silverspar: Are you aware of what she is telling the audience at Adult Hub about my classes? The classes you had hosted here for all that time?
ravena.decuir: ???
Forceme Silverspar: I am disappointed about what she is telling the audience of mostly new people at Central hub about my classes.
Forceme Silverspar: I was wondering if you are aware of her thoughts about them. Seeing as her owner had them hosted here at her school for such a long time.
ravena.decuir: to my knowledge she has never mentioned your classes.
Forceme Silverspar: Oh she has. I had a conversation sent to me.
Forceme Silverspar: It is quite disgusting.
ravena.decuir: then i suggest you take it up with her she is due here soon.
Forceme Silverspar: OK
ravena.decuir: but please do it in im..
Forceme Silverspar: I would have thought you might like to be interested as you are her owner, and you hosted my classes, and she is doing this at the central hub.
Forceme Silverspar: But nevermind.
Forceme Silverspar: I will take it up with her.
ravena.decuir: ok.. as for me taking your classes all i ever did was give you room and space to do your classes here nothing more and i never once interfered with them.
Forceme Silverspar: I'll wait for isabella, thanks.
ravena.decuir): as you wish.
Forceme Silverspar: As per your suggestion.

(Does she understand the word 'host'?)

So I waited for dizzy-izzy and spoke with her when it looked like she was free.

Forceme Silverspar: Are you busy isabelle?
isabelle.kostolany: I don't believe we have anything to say to each other, forceme
Forceme Silverspar: Really?
isabelle.kostolany: really
Forceme Silverspar smiles, OK. Wonderful.

isabelle is the one who put out child avatars out as freebies at The Adult Hub (Hawhaw) and she is also the one who refused to speak with me about some nazi-type ejects by hub staff from my Freedom Continent group that people were complaining to me about, the result of which was, I ejected everyone and closed the group.   I didn't want my name associated with the actions that I was being told about.  The reasons why people were being ejected and banned from Adult Hub were disgraceful.  For example, when FL information was not being given when hub staff were demanding it.  No.  My name wasn't going to be linked with that behaviour.

And she still doesn't want to talk with me.  No really, that's fine.   I'll talk to myself then.   Dear Diary...

Leona's Open Letter

I thought this might be interesting to read as it is an "Open Statement" written 3 months ago by lilfae, AKA Leona, AKA iDoll or whatever is taking his pleasure this week.   He of course retracted all his words here when he rebecame a manager of the Adult Hub.  Have to say, in his clarity of mind, everything he says about the Adult Hub is true.

Dear everyone.

I have decided that this is a game I will not play any more. And this time, I am serious, no amount of talking will get me to return to this project you call 'The Adult Hubs'.

My reasons are fairly simple; Everyone claims they wish for it to succeed, but only a few, and I mean like, three, actually want that. The others are just 'yes men'. Those who want it to succeed, as long as they don't have to do anything.  Since day one, I have tried everything, to make them welcoming, friendly, and even keeled.  I did not have the skills to manage the central hub, but I did it, because they meant something to me.  They officially do not, any more.

They are a lag fest, filled with contradiction, and people who care only about what they can get from it. Be it money, or a place to socialise.  We've gone from being even-keeled, unbiased, giving both sides of a story, to everything in SL to better inform our clientele, to a U-turn, where, as long as we get people, it no longer matters what else goes on.  I really hate myself for saying this, but I believe Forceme was actually GOOD, for the Hubs. She had a terrible personality, but she got things done, and did so in spite of others. And very often, on her own. I now know how that feels, and I actually feel sorry for her being gone.

You want this place to succeed, you need to take a long hard look at yourselves here. Because saying you want something, and taking steps to actually achieve it, are two different things.  And most of you lack that foresight.

For nearly a month, I've tried to get a website up, for you, all of you, to use. How many of you actually contributed? About 3, and of those, one is new to staff, I hope you don't burn him out, like you've burned me out, he deserves better too.

I will continue to work on this site, and I will continue to do so, in spite of the complete and utter lack of help you wish to provide.  I don't expect it to succeed on my own, but it's become apparent, that the only way it will ever even get off the ground, is if I do every little bit myself. 

If this letter jars the wrong people, and it's decided that I be fired. I will hand over the passwords to the site, and surrender it, unlike some, I believe what I do for the community stays there.  But you will not see me again in the continent after.

I wish you all luck in the future.

Leona. 
P.S. remove me from the estate managers lists. I will leave the group itself shortly after posting this.

Reporting a "serious violation of ToS" is harassment @ Adult Hub

I don't know exactly why I am doing it, other than it amuses me and it is incredible fun for me.  I love to see these churls puff up and spew.  All I have to do is open my mouth just once and just a little and there they go!  The geyser erupts.  I can't actually believe how much attention they give me.  I wonder sometimes if it is my imagination, but it isn't honestly.  All I have to do is open my mouth and I have a zillion Hub Owners and Staff bark at my command.  I play with them like little toy soldiers and they just don't see that that is exactly what I am doing.   I say bark, they bark! 

Here is today's contribution to the Forceme Silverspar's entertainment programme.  dustbunny.walcott is a hub worker and sin.ushimawa wears a tag of "Adult Hub Owner".  (Yes, yet another one)

suckingtombradysdick is apparently a 1 day old avatar but I stake my shoes that this is an alt.  She stands in the hub and calls out, 'who owns this place?'.  Some 10 mins later she perks up again.

[15:33] suckingtombradysdick: ok whoever owns this place please kick out this guy who is harrasing me

And she pastes in Local Chat the IM that she was having with another fellow Hub visitor.

[15:33] suckingtombradysdick: [15:32] Resident: you are so hot, baby [15:32] suckingtombradysdick: oh well tell me how you really feel lol  [15:33] Resident: i feel like pulling your panties off and licking your pussy

I'd been silent for near on 45 mins, and I thought this could be fun.

[15:34] Forceme Silverspar coughs.
[15:34] antere: I know that feeling. I always feel like that :O
[15:34] adlin93: haha i cant say that word at all or it comes up ugh
[15:35] Lucan Lykin: hands forceme a cough drop
[15:35] Forceme Silverspar: Why is that harassing you, you asked him to tell you how he really feels, so he did.

That's true right?  And Dusty is a peasant worker of staff at the hub.   No special Hub Owner tag for her although from what I can see, she is the one who does all the work!

[15:35] dustbunny.walcott: i sympathise, but cutting and pasting private IM into local chat is a serious violatiojn ot TOS, so please don't do it again

Indeed, Dusty!  Pasting private IMs into Local Chat is a serious violation of ToS.  Well done for telling her.

[15:35] suckingtombradysdick: i was being sarcastic jeeze take a hint

Hmm, so suckingtombradysdick hints, and because he doesn't get her hint, he is harassing her?  I would expect if it is an important issue of stopping harassment then it deserves more than a hint.  In any case, I don't consider what she said a hint anyway.  I mean, she is stood in Adult Hub Central, with a rating of A, with a name of suckingtombradysdick  and she pisses her knickers over an IM?   Dear, dear.  Really, was she expecting to have a conversation about the hadron collider, maybe?  So I thought her a straff and decided to play with her too. 

[15:35] suckingtombradysdick: ok sorry dusty
[15:35] adlin93: its from 'family guy spin-off'
[15:36] Forceme Silverspar: I am Abuse Reporting you, "suckingtombradysstick" for a vialotation of ToS.
[15:36] suckingtombradysdick: TOS?
[15:36] wiccanshaz: terms of service
[15:36] sin.ushimawa: who is doing it suck?
[15:36] alliene: they wont listen
[15:36] adlin93: ohhhh shit goin down
[15:37] wiccanshaz: how about we all just calm down a bit and avoid those u dont want to talk to. If there are any issues, please come directly to a staff member and we will sort it out

Calm down?  Calm down?  I haven't even started yet!

[15:37] suckingtombradysdick: understood wiccan
[15:39] whitelillie: hey Judas
[15:39]dustbunny.walcott: and forceme, i think you've been the source of enough hard feelings around here in your career wihtout ARin new people

I have no idea why dustbunny.walcott would think that being the source of other people's hard feelings has anything to do with me AR'ing people who break ToS.  Someone explain that to me.

[15:39] sin.ushimawa: I would agree

She would, because other than puff and spew, she can think of no original words for herself.  "Me sheep, me bahhhhh a lot"

[15:40] Forceme Silverspar: Surely you don't condone the breaking of ToS here at Adult Hub Central?

True right?  I think they should be thanking me for being bothered to keep their place clean from the reputation that it is OK to break ToS at their hub. 

[15:40] dustbunny.walcott: i told her the rules, now she knows better

She read the rules when she signed her name on the ToS agreement.   Oh does the hub think that noobs have the right to break ToS?

[15:41] sin.ushimawa: that is up to the person thet was viloated others doing it is picking nits
[15:41] Forceme Silverspar: That doesn't answer my question. It is every resident's responsibility to police this world, LL don't do it. I happen to take my responsibility seriously.
[15:42] Forceme Silverspar: You call it, nit-pick. That's OK.
[15:42] pharaoh73: hello ladies amazing monday
[15:42] sin.ushimawa: Forcme, dont test Me

OMG!     BIG M, I am just quaking in my boots!  Test you how exactly?  Are you suggesting and modelling the fact that people can break ToS and other people need to ignore that?  Is this the culture that Adult Hub is  encouraging.  And when someone like me who does what LL have said we need to do, that is, police ourselves, that that is the wrong behaviour to exude?  I would have thought that Linden lab Terms of Service should come above any small-world, political and personal anxieties?

[15:42] dustbunny.walcott: if you wanna harass new poeple, take it someplace else

Soooooooooooooooooooooooo, picking up on a "serious ToS violation", to use her own words, is harassment?  SOMEONE EXPLAIN THESE PEOPLE TO ME!  They don't come from the same planet as I do.

[15:42] whitelillie: Hello PH and yes it is
[15:42] whitelillie: I feel you Judas
[15:42] whitelillie whispers: yep!
[15:43] Forceme Silverspar: She broke ToS - as you said "a serious violation". I don't consider it harassment. I call AR'ing her my duty.
[15:44] sin.ushimawa: you seem ever so eager to do your "duty"

Yes. This is true.  Doing my duty is important to me.  As it was when I worked 24/7 for three months at Central Hub.  And all on my own, jumping every hurdle that idiots, churls and ignorants put in front of me.  You enjoyed the fruits of my duty then, didn't you?

[15:44] dustbunny.walcott: do what you feel you must. any further mention of teh subject will be treated as disturbing the peace and dealt with approprioately
[15:44] Forceme Silverspar smiles.

Hang about, I ain't the one doing the mentioning.  I told suck-a-dick that I was ARing her and the rest of the conversation was initiated by these two cheese-puffs.

I am still on the hunt for Randy-Ravena, but I am enjoying this all the same.

Adult Hub rules

Respect EVERYONE and ALL are welcome here.

Kinda interesting rules #1 and #2 considering what the Hub owner and the Hub Manager Without Brief decided to say in Local Chat in front of all the audience they had at Adult Hub.

Lovely staff

From after I left Central hub yesterday in local chat in front everyone...

isabelle who wears Hub Owner tag
lilfae who is a Hub Manager Without Brief

isabelle.kostolany: welcome back, leona - you missed forceme's departure :)
lilfae: Oh did I? Darn
isabelle.kostolany: I thought you'd be upset :)
lilfae: I'll get the Febreeze out shall I?
isabelle.kostolany: I think she was trying to score some points - I'm not entirely sure why though :)
lilfae: I thought for a moment, she was going to advertise her classes
isabelle.kostolany: I like to think of them as a way of how not to do things :)
lilfae: Yes, but lesson 1 is an oxymoron; Don't do the classes.. xD
isabelle.kostolany: lots of people go to them, and she has quite a reputation - but I have been to one, which went of for three days (or it seemed like it), where she 'assassinated' someone's profile
lilfae: Oh, she actually holds them?
isabelle.kostolany: an acquired taste, let's say :)
lilfae: I thought she got Bouncing Box to
isabelle.kostolany: this was some time ago - it was the first and last class of hers that I went to
lilfae: I went to one myself once, I felt like I outclassed the curriculum
isabelle.kostolany: ah, you just have to forget everything you have learned about D/s when you go to a forceme class :)
lilfae: You realise though, she's probably still here in another form? QUeen of the alternate? :)
isabelle.kostolany: oh, naturally :)
lilfae: Have to sidestep those Terms of Service some how, right?

from isabelle, whose owner invited me to teach my classes at her school, whose school I taught at for so long and who begged me to stay teaching there after I left FC.  Yet my classes which were the mainstay of her mistress' school were so crap, now she tells her audience at Central hub?

And from lilfae who attended many of my classes, and who praised them often to me and to others and who wrote this about me to everyone about my work at Central hub... "I really hate myself for saying this, but I believe Forceme was actually GOOD, for the Hubs. She had a terrible personality, but she got things done, and did so in spite of others. And very often, on her own. I now know how that feels, and I actually feel sorry for her being gone." in her open statement just three months ago. 

What a pair of silly boys they are.  And the four people who IMed me after I had gone and sent me the convo they were having think very little of them both now.  Slagging off me and my classes did nothing for their reputation and gained me more supporters.  They both have the political acumen of a carrot which is why the hubs will never succeed.